Wanna see fast?

[defiler]

http://www.dpccars.com/car-movies/05...rontakeoff.htm

Saw this over @ PT today. Wicked.

[MN Probe GT]

http://www.dpccars.com/car-movies/05...rontakeoff.htm

Saw this over @ PT today. Wicked.

poor linking skills.

[d_phekt]

i think this is what he meant to post...

http://www.dpccars.com/car-movies/05-23-06pageBugattiVeyrontakeoff.htm

[defiler]

Yeah that is what I meant to link to... my CPU crashed and wouldnt let me access the page, so I linked from a link... thats why



either way, thats fast

[pcmmelite]

1001 HP + AWD=:drool: :drool: :bd: :bd: :drool: :drool:
$1,300,000=:wtf: :shrug: :no:

[defiler]

Actually all the ones off the production line have dynoed mor ein the 1100HP range. Still sick. And it's 4wd, not AWD...

[MN Probe GT]

Actually all the ones off the production line have dynoed mor ein the 1100HP range. Still sick. And it's 4wd, not AWD...
Yeah it's got 2 wheels in the middle under the car that are not powered.

[defiler]

Yeah it's got 2 wheels in the middle under the car that are not powered.
huh?:confused:

[Lancimus]

Yeah it's got 2 wheels in the middle under the car that are not powered.

it has 6 wheels?

[pcmmelite]

Defiler, I think kirk was making fun of you for correcting me. How are you distinguishing the difference between AWD and 4WD? Can you switch to 2WD(FW or RW) mode or something?

[pcmmelite]

uh oh, Maybe Automobile Magazine made a mistake too!

[defiler]

Defiler, I think kirk was making fun of you for correcting me. How are you distinguishing the difference between AWD and 4WD? Can you switch to 2WD(FW or RW) mode or something?

No, it's just that the Bugatti has all-time 4wd from what the website states. there's no "self-correcting" of the power ratios between the front and the back. It's just 2 axles locked in, not necessarily working together.

uh oh, Maybe Automobile Magazine made a mistake too!
Uh-OH! You're a smartass!:wtf:

Try reading up on Bugatti's own website; Notice it says 4wd.:idea:
http://www.bugatti-cars.de/bugatti/index.html

The engine power gets to the wheels through a continuous 4-wheel drive system

[pcmmelite]

Uh-OH! You're a smartass!:wtf:


I wasn't the one trying to distinguish the difference my friend. The smart ass comment was the the one you stated in correcting AWD w/ 4wd. It's not like you magically changed what everyone was thinking in making the correction. In fact, you probably confused people more than clarifying anything. I'm not saying you were wrong in what you corrected, but just kind of stupid to make the correction since the car is driven by all the wheels. Now if I had said it was RWD or FWD, than that would have been a different story.

MOST people would think of the ability to switch between 2wd and 4wd on a 4wd system as the main difference because it has a transfer case vs. the use a viscous fluid coupling center differential. If you're telling me that the car has Full Time 4 wheel drive, than to me at least, it's not worth distinguishing or correcting THAT and an AWD system since they, in essence, are doing the same thing, even if they aren't the same thing.

I've been on this board for 4 years versus your 3 months and I hardly think that I have the reputation of being a smartass. All I did was show you what a magazine says, so leave the name calling for someone who deserves it.

[MN Probe GT]

you know you can just edit your original post. You don't need to keep making new ones.

btw, I consider myself the #1 smartass around here.

[pcmmelite]

you know you can just edit your original post. You don't need to keep making new ones.

btw, I consider myself the #1 smartass around here.

I have nothing to say to that since I know you have many things that can hurt me from very far away with help from scopes and tripods.

[MN Probe GT]

I have nothing to say to that since I know you have many things that can hurt me from very far away with help from scopes and tripods.
I don't have any scopes or tripods. :( And if I did I wouldn't hurt you with them. :p

[pcmmelite]

I don't have any scopes or tripods. :( And if I did I wouldn't hurt you with them. :p

I wasn't referring to you hurting me with the tripod or scope, I was referring to what it would be hooked up to. :lol: OK Defiler, now you can call me a smartass for that one.

Who had that big ass mofo sniper rifle that I saw a pic of in a previous thread? Was it rebby? Eitherway, what you just got (see shooting/hunting thread) doesn't exactly make me feel better about your reply. When you run out of bullets, than I'll challenge you, since I collect swords.

[defiler]

since they, in essence, are doing the same thing, even if they aren't the same thing.

True. But everyone tries to tell me they are the same thing, and I reacted badly to it. I'm still used to all the PT BS from posts, and I naturally think everyone's trying to attack me with everything.

[MN Probe GT]

True. But everyone tries to tell me they are the same thing, and I reacted badly to it. I'm still used to all the PT BS from posts, and I naturally think everyone's trying to attack me with everything.
It's the same thing. :D

[pcmmelite]

It's the same thing. :D

:lol:

Defiler, I hardly go on PT anymore except for if I'm looking to buy something, for some of the same reasons as you described. There are some other boards that are even worse where all they do is talk trash back and forth and threaten to kick each other's asses while never backing it up. The peeps on mnpoc are so much cooler and actually can talk about meaningful things outside of cars and stuff. And even about cars, they seem to be able to answer most any questions or problems that most people are having. :tup: for mnpoc!

[defiler]

There are some other boards that are even worse where all they do is talk trash back

I hear alot of the DSM boards are just that, like dsmtuners...

[Shrep]

Hmmm...

Sounds like we need a lesson on drivetrain terminology. ;)

http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/img/red-arr.gif Part time 4WD is a system that can only be used part of the time in four wheel drive.
This 4WD system was created to provide a vehicle with more traction to either carry higher loads and/or to travel in adverse terrain conditions. Clearly purpose built to do hard work. It can only be used for adverse terrain conditions - not for dry pavement.
Typical lever settings are 2WD, 4WD Hi, 4WD Lo.
Very good off-road. Most competent when combined with axle differential locks.
• 2WD setting must be used on dry pavement.
• If 4WD is selected, all 4 wheels are permanently powered.

http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/img/red-arr.gif Full time 4WD can be used full time on all surfaces including pavement.
Full time 4WD was created to provide a vehicle with more traction and to make 4WD more useful for everyday life. It is also called permanent 4WD. The additional feature of a differential incorporated into the transfer case makes it possible to use 4WD all the time.
2WD is no longer available. Can still be a strong workhorse. Some rough terrain competence is retained - the priority is added stability as a safety gain for everyday driving.
Typical lever or switch settings are 4WD Hi, 4WD Lo. Very good off-road when center diff is lockable. Even better when combined with axle differential locks.
• All 4 wheels are permanently powered.
Prominent example: pre 2006 Mercedes M-Class

http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/img/red-arr.gif Full time symmetric AWD is similar to full time 4WD - only it lacks the slow speed torque enhancing low range feature. Can be used full time on all surfaces including pavement.
Symmetric AWD was created as a safety feature for modern day vehicles. Not designed for hard work. Clearly a safer, more comfortable vehicle. Rough terrain competence has almost vanished - focus is on added stability and performance.
Limited use for off-road.
• All 4 wheels are permanently powered.
Prominent examples: 2006 Mercedes M-Class, Audi Quattro, most Subaru, before 2006 RAV4

http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/img/red-arr.gif Automatic asymmetric AWD was created solely as a stability enhancing system. Auto AWD can be used full time on all surfaces including pavement. AWD only briefly activates automatically when stability threatening conditions arise. Essentially a 2WD car with 2WD handling characteristics. Absolutely no adverse terrain capabilities. Clearly built for added road stability and safety.
Not recommended for off-road beyond graded dirt roads.
• 2 wheels are powered most of the time
• 4 wheels are only temporarily powered.
Prominent example: Volvo AWD, 2006 RAV4

Now...I have a 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee Loredo, w/Quadra-Trac. This is a full-time 4WD System with Hi/Lo, Positraction in the rear and a locking front differential.

The Bugatti Veyron...is AWD. More specifically, it's the most common type of AWD system used in passenger cars and sedans today. Formally called Automatic asymmetric AWD.



I really wish that when people started correcting others, they at least had a clue what they were talking about. :no:

[GTcruiser33]

smartass ownage right thurr ^^^^

[jay]

I have 2000 Oldsmobile Bravada SmartTrac, it is AWD and only kicks on right at 0-10 MPH or less, then when my back wheel starts to slip, the front kicks on. 4WD and AWD are totally different if you ask me. 4WD is when you manually turn it on. AWD is computerized by sensors. Shrep has the detailed. I doubt there is a Bugatti is 4WD since most CARS dont have that kind of options, AWD is way more common for cars and may SUVs. Trucks are most common with 4WD.

[Lancimus]

thanks justin, I had no idea what was going one when it came to all this...very good explanation...

[wannabfast]

Actually all the ones off the production line have dynoed mor ein the 1100HP range. Still sick. And it's 4wd, not AWD...

what production line? each one is hand built, one at a time!

on a side note, bugatti now owned by vw, which is also responsible for buying out lamborgini... looks like ze germans have caught the italian car craze too..
but basically its an italian styled car with gallardo driveline... and vdub powered... crazy huh?

[defiler]

bugatti now owned by vw
Better term would have been "is" owned by VW, since they've owned them for (IIRC) 10 years.


Lambo supposedly is coming out with a 1kHP Murcielago too.... TT V10, AWD...


what production line? each one is hand built, one at a time!
I know.... I just said that since a lot of people don;t know that... didn;t want to confuse people...

But all of the ones produced I've read go over 1100HP.... I find it funny... everytime the engineers came up with an excuse as to why 1000HP wasnt possible, the head guy just kept pretty much telling them "Nope. Nope. Nope. Come back when you've got 1000hp"