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TwinTurboGT's
12/07/2003, 07:05 PM
hey guys please do this poll for me, i need to find out whether i should just keep the 2.2 ford motor for show or swap to the FE3, im not really worried about performance because of the fact that its gonna be show, but i have started workin on the car, and need some help on deciding whether to keep the current motor and really clean it up or to go with the FE3..

Thanks guys:thup:

jay
12/07/2003, 07:08 PM
I'd dress the 2.2 up. It's cheaper. If you install a FE, its costing bucks and after install, then you gotta throw in MORE money to dress it up and hope no more added repair is needed after FE installed.

my $0.02

cam
12/07/2003, 07:10 PM
Agreed

youngin
12/07/2003, 07:26 PM
def. agree with nos and jay. your 2.2 is a nice motor, especially being turbocharged.

Splat
12/07/2003, 07:34 PM
If your going performance, then go FE3 and do the whole Fall guy thing... but if your just going show then why spend all the money?

TwinTurboGT's
12/14/2003, 08:22 PM
cmon guys there are more then 10 people in this club, i need more votes so far its tied...

please guys this doesn't even consist of u leaving your house and driving 50 miles for a meet, its a simple opinion! please and thanks

bob

Splat
12/14/2003, 10:10 PM
it seems that everyone who cares has voted.

Shrep
12/14/2003, 10:42 PM
2.2t fo sho.

eXtreMX-6
12/14/2003, 10:43 PM
stick with the engine you have dont waste your money on performance if your show. Im one of those have to have go with my sho or ill look like a po' ho kinda guys though.

TwinTurboGT's
12/14/2003, 11:53 PM
see thats the deal, the money really isn't the issue, cause im gonna spend over 2g just on the bodykit and rims alone, i want it to look good


What im really asking is what would you rather see if you were to go to a car show and see a 1st gen probe, a show probe with the 2.2 or a show probe with and upgraded 2.0 FE3 mazda motor with the works done, i guess thats what im really workin on

Show cars are suppose to be about mods, so if u upgrade with mods doing the FE3 would be one of those upgrades, just wouldn't really be the probe if u know what i mean

Dont get me wrong i would love to save the money, but i want what people are gonna wanna see when they see it on the show room floor!

Thanks to all of you that have voted!

Bob:thup:

jay
12/15/2003, 02:23 AM
want to IMPRESS ppl? put a AWESOME sound system along with a NOS or whatever into it.. i still dont see FE3 in a show car.. do something PPL wouldnt do with their PROBE 2.2 or hasnt DONE yet.. be creative.. dont waste money repairing and have some lame ass FE3 . if i still had my 91 GT... and wanted to show it.. id put my money dressing it up like dave did to his car... (the silver probe) you impress ppl with exterior and interior.. NOT motor.. the MOTOR is to impress ppl are cars like Chargers or Cudas, or even SS/RS camaros... now THAT i would spend my money for a NICE big ass motor.. but for a probe 4 banger.. POUR the money into exterior and interior.. NOT the MOTOR.. its a waste of money if you ONLY have 2 G to spend.. if you had 15G to spend.. then i wouldnt see why not.. bc you could get CUSTOM supercharged system with NOS and all the BOOSTABLE items you can get for that motor... but for with 2G.. dont get a motor.. use it to dress the exterior and interior.. ( is thinkin you should do LEATHER wacky interior.. ( NO OTHER 1st gen probe i have ever seen has leather interior) try that.. be CREATIVE!!! think of crap other probe owners never thought of! ppl have certainly had FE3 in their 1st gen.. not worth the effort... for showwise... drag wise.. maybe..

flea
12/15/2003, 05:14 AM
fe3 looks wayyy cooler, with that gold valve cover, i'd rather see a turbo fe3.

naustin
12/15/2003, 08:17 AM
If you were to spend enough money on it to make it a show car, (and I don't mean the Owattonna friday night malt shop show either) then you could have bought and FE3, turbo'd that, and have 300+ horsepower.

Of course, if you've ever seen my car you'll be able to see that I"m rather bias.

mnskateboarder
12/15/2003, 08:22 AM
swap to the fe3.

flea
12/15/2003, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by naustin
If you were to spend enough money on it to make it a show car, (and I don't mean the Owattonna friday night malt shop show either) then you could have bought and FE3, turbo'd that, and have 300+ horsepower.

Of course, if you've ever seen my car you'll be able to see that I"m rather bias.
who needs show when you can have performance?? :lol: i think i might follow in your footsteps nick:eek:

mnskateboarder
12/15/2003, 08:40 AM
yeah swap it and have more power, and than do a couple things to make it look pretty.

TwinTurboGT's
12/15/2003, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by Jay Mayes
its a waste of money if you ONLY have 2 G to spend.. if you had 15G to spend.. then i wouldnt see why not.. bc you could get CUSTOM supercharged system with NOS and all the BOOSTABLE items you can get for that motor... but for with 2G.. dont get a motor.. use it to dress the exterior and interior..

see thats the thing, i dunno if u just simply misread, but i dont have 2g to put into the car, i was implying that its gonna cost around 2g just for the bodykit and rims... im thinkin that its gonna cost me around 10g in the end to finish this car after the whole sound system and interior and exterior work that im plannin on!

yeah swap it and have more power, and than do a couple things to make it look pretty.

as for the power im not too worried about that, cause when this car is finished it really isn't gonna get driven much, maybe 2-3 times in the summer but other then that it will be strictly show.

And to whomever was talking about some minor owatonna car show.. The answer is not, im planning if it is finished by then it will get its first start at autovations next year in the cities..

Im hopin to get the 1st gen probe looked at a little better then an old piece of junk winter beater! that and to show people how nice u really can make these 1st gens, maybe then the aftermarket potential will go up for these cars... but no its not gonna be small its gonna start with autovations and hopefully before long will end up in some mags....


Thanks for your input guys, i love it

Bob:thup:

ruthless_mx3
12/15/2003, 07:06 PM
i think the fe3 is a much nicer engine probably due to it being dohc

The big question is: Are you willing to spend / do you have the money for the fe3?

I say if you are planning on a high class big ass car show, then you should do the fe3.

Originally posted by Jay Mayes
want to IMPRESS ppl? put a AWESOME sound system along with a NOS or whatever into it.. i still dont see FE3 in a show car.. do something PPL wouldnt do with their PROBE 2.2 or hasnt DONE yet.. be creative.. dont waste money repairing and have some lame ass FE3 . if i still had my 91 GT... and wanted to show it.. id put my money dressing it up like dave did to his car... (the silver probe) you impress ppl with exterior and interior.. NOT motor.. the MOTOR is to impress ppl are cars like Chargers or Cudas, or even SS/RS camaros... now THAT i would spend my money for a NICE big ass motor.. but for a probe 4 banger.. POUR the money into exterior and interior.. NOT the MOTOR.. its a waste of money if you ONLY have 2 G to spend.. if you had 15G to spend.. then i wouldnt see why not.. bc you could get CUSTOM supercharged system with NOS and all the BOOSTABLE items you can get for that motor... but for with 2G.. dont get a motor.. use it to dress the exterior and interior.. ( is thinkin you should do LEATHER wacky interior.. ( NO OTHER 1st gen probe i have ever seen has leather interior) try that.. be CREATIVE!!! think of crap other probe owners never thought of! ppl have certainly had FE3 in their 1st gen.. not worth the effort... for showwise... drag wise.. maybe..

You say be creative and stick with the same motor that every person has that owns a 1st gen probe gt. To me thats pretty unoriginal, especially since its the stock motor. You are right when you say that not many modify (for show) the 2.2. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying theres anything wrong with the 2.2. My friend has an MX-6 with that motor and its bad ass. I also see your point with the fact that others have swapped the fe3, but there's alot more 2.2s in probes than fe3s.
Just expand from just the basic swap. Do other things to the fe3. Relocate crap. Reroute as many hoses and wires as possible to fit as many as possible into just a few hoses/loom. Make covers, boxes, or anything to cover the ugly stuff.

But like said above: $$$Money$$$ thats the deciding factor.

You might only have enough money right now to use the 2.2 but if you dump a bunch of money into the 2.2 you will be stuck with it and possibly regret not waiting to afford the fe3.

What I would suggest is to start working on everything else first and leave the motor decision for last. It will give you time to think about it and hopefully prevent you from regretting your decision later.

*phew* *wipes forhead*

Shad's95GT
12/15/2003, 07:33 PM
ruthless_mx3's last post is what I would have said if I wasn't too lazy to write it all out.:lol:

TwinTurboGT's
12/15/2003, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by ruthless_mx3

What I would suggest is to start working on everything else first and leave the motor decision for last. It will give you time to think about it and hopefully prevent you from regretting your decision later.

*phew* *wipes forhead*

see thats another thing that i dont want to do, cause if i do that then i will have the whole thing done and im going with a custom paint job that is gonna cost some money, so i dont wanna risk messing up the paint or anything, and the way it sits now i have the front bumper removed and teh 1/4 panels off...

So right now is seeming to be the best time to make my decision on what im going to do, i found a guy that has the FE3 for $650 in florida, and i just got $200 for my stock intercooler and got an offer for the motor as well, so i really dont know.. Thats really why im tryin to get some input from you guys as well, i think ima post on like PT and PP and see what i can get out of it!

But again thanks for all your guys input on this i do appreciate it..

Bob:thup:

jay
12/15/2003, 10:25 PM
exterior and interior first.. then decide if the MOTOR would be worth the effort...


here: im NOT in your shoes... you do what you do bc you are in your shoes... i suggested.. thats all im going to do.. im shudding up now... in MY Shoes.. i wouldnt pour the money into the motor when i got ONE CURRENT motor running. id simiply upgrade the CURRENT motor. by that i mean, painting the valve covers, do some header work, do some UNIQUE job to the motor... id put it into the exterior and interior.... ( shuts up )

Splat
12/15/2003, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by Jay Mayes
exterior and interior first.. then decide if the MOTOR would be worth the effort...

Sounds rice to me...

jay
12/15/2003, 10:29 PM
thats bc you are a rice lover...

Splat
12/15/2003, 10:43 PM
no, i'm the Rice Patrol!!

probespeed
12/15/2003, 11:51 PM
:lol:


.......anyway I was thinkin what shad just said about ruthless's post ;)